A false problem: the "csangos" of Moldavia
Among
the
many
problems
that
arose
in
the
existence
of
Romanians
after
the
revolution
of
December
1989
is
unfortunately
the
false
problem
of
Catholics,
with
antecedents
coming
from
the
historical
past,
the
claim
by
Hungarians
of
Moldovan
Roman
Catholics
as
Hungarians,
under
the
name
of
"csangos",
there
is
no
doubt
that
lying
and
falsification
of
documents
remain
today
the
reference
points
for
Hungarian
foreign
policy.
Although
Moldovan
Roman
Catholics
have
always
asserted
their
Romanian identity, Hungarian nationalism continues to claim them.
Linguistic
innovation
of
Hungarian
historiography
The
term
"csangos-Hungarians",
or
"Hungarians-csangos",
(in
French
tchangos,
in
Hungarian
csangos,
in
German
tschangos,
in
English
changos),
is
perceived
as
an
insult
by
the
Roman
Catholic
population
in
Moldova
and
created
a
false
ethnic
problem
that
serves
the
Hungarian
government
in
its
policy
on
the
protection
of
Hungarians
abroad.
Based
only
on
"Hungarian
historical"
sources,
the
false
problem
of
the
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldova
became
a
subject
of
work
for
the
European
bodies
with
attributions
in
the
field,
at
the
initiative
of
the
Hungarian
government,
which
used
several
artificially
created
and
financed
associations.
Their
leaders,
a
limited
circle
of
people
who
migrate
from
one
association
to
another
(Via
Spei,
the
Association
of
Hungarian
csangos
from
Moldova,
Siret
-
Cleja,
etc.),
numbering
a
total
of
several
dozen
people,
represent
either
"imports
from
Transylvania"
,
or
people
educated
overnight
in
university
centers
in
Hungary.
Lacking
an
audience,
but
in
need
of
a
legitimation
of
the
actions
taken,
they
compiled
lists
of
signatures
for
various
material
aids,
later
using
them
to
support
requests
for
educational
and
religious
assistance in Hungarian.
The
ignorance
of
this
aspect
thus
misled
the
European
bodies
with
responsibilities
in
the
field,
which,
through
the
resolutions
adopted
in
2001,
surprisingly
concluded
that
the
"csangos"
would
be
a
compact
"ethnic
minority"
as
a
geographical
area,
in
other
words,
closed,
isolated
and
sentenced
to
extinction.
Falling
into
this
trap,
European
bodies
a
priori
accepted
the
"saving
role"
of
pro-Hungarian
associations
in
the
so-called
"csangos",
thus
facilitating
the
neo-Hungarianization
of
Moldovan
Catholics,
which
could
ultimately
lead
to
aberrant
territorial
solutions
such
as
"csango
lands”.
In
this
way
the
nostalgia
of“
Greater
Hungary
”knows
an
interesting
metamorphosis
indusively
adapted
to
the
realities of today's Europe.
What inspired us?
Professor
Dumitru
Mărtinaş's
book
entitled:
"The
origin
of
the
csangos
from
Moldova",
makes
an
analysis
of
the
life
of
Moldovan
Catholics,
as
it
iwas
known
by
the
author,
himself
being
a
Roman
Catholic
from
Neamț County.
The
author
writes
to
defend
his
right
and
that
of
the
community
to
which
he
belongs,
the
moral
right
to
know
and
assume
his
own
identity
(see
summary
of
the
book…
here
>>>
).
Affirming one's identity
Through
our
actions
we
do
not
want
to
influence
anyone
or
attract
followers
to
our
beliefs
of any kind.
We
just
want
to
tell
everyone
who
we
are,
hoping
that
if
we
are
known,
our
will
and
our
rights
will
be
respected,
equally
with
those
of
all
citizens
in
Romania,
the
European
Union
and
around the world (see the page ABOUT).
Our arguments (historical, cultural and DNA tests)
on the Romanian origin of the Roman Catholics in Moldavia (the so-called “csangos”)
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldova
(the
so-called
"csangos"),
declare
themselves
Romanians.
This
will
and
conviction,
resulting
from
the
individual
and
group
conscience
of
Roman
Catholics,
was
expressed
on the occasion of the population census.
The
consciousness
of
belonging
to
the
Romanian
nation
and
the
own
will
of
the
Roman
Catholics,
firmly
expressed,
freely
and
constantly
over
time,
is
completed
with
ethnographic,
folkloric,
historical
arguments,
with
the
result
of
scientific
research
and
especially
with
the
conclusions
of
the
latest
achievements
of
the
biological
sciences
-
DNA
TESTS
,
these
being
genetic
analyzes
performed
in
extensive
research
on
the
discovery
of
the
complete
sequence
of
the
human
genome,
the
evolution
of
the
human species and clarification some aspects of human history.
The truth is in the
DNA
We
invite
all
those
who
consider
themselves
csangos
to
have
their
DNA
tested.
This
is
only
for
their
knowledge,
so
that
they
know
their
ethnic origin.
THE
INVITATION
TO
THE
TRUTH
is
addressed
in
order
to
become
more
tolerant
by
knowing
the
truth
(see
here
..
The
invitation to the truth
).
The genetic origin of
the so-called
"csangos"
According
to
scientific
reports
prepared
by
geneticists,
on
the
occasion
of
research
on
the
genetic
origin
of
Romanians
and
Hungarians,
the
so-
called
"csangos"
are
descendants
of
the
Dacians,
respectively
"csangos"
are
Romanians
(see
A
C
K
N
O
W
L
E
D
G
M
E
N
T
page).
The
genetic
origin
of
the Hungarians
According
to
DNA
tests,
5%
of
today's
Hungarians
are
of
Asian
descent,
but
less
than
3%
of
them
are
descendants
of
conquerors
and
most
are
descendants
of
Europeans,
this
means
that
THE
H
U
N
G
A
R
I
A
N
ETHNICITY
DOES
NOT
EXIST
different
of
the
Balkan
peoples
(see
page
ACKNOWLEDGMENT)
The
genetic
origin
of
other
European
peoples
From
the
content
of
genetic
scientific
reports,
carried
out
by
scientists,
it
results
that
other
peoples
in
Europe
have
their
own
majority
genetic
fund
but
with
important
genetic
contributions
from
other
European
populations
(
see
here
>>>
).
DNA tests about the origin of the so-called "csangos"
compared to Romanians, Hungarians and other peoples in Europe and in the Balkans.
DNA
tests
performed
in
scientific
studies
on
the
Romanian
population,
those
on
the
current
Hungarian
population,
compared
to
the
old
Hungarian
population
and
the
kings
of
Hungary,
as
well
as
DNA
tests
performed
by
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldova,
on
their
own
initiative,
concluded
that
-the
csangos
are
closer
genetically
to
Romanians
than
to
Hungarians
and
between
Romanians
and
Hungarians
there
are
genetic
similarities
because
Romanians
and
Hungarians
have
common
ancestors,
these
two
peoples
being
descendants
of
Thracians
and
Dacians
(Dacians
themselves
being
of
the
Thracian tribe), existing similarities and with neighboring peoples (see CONFIRMATIONS page).
DNA
tests
for
populations
in
European
countries
From
the
content
of
the
scientific
reports
for
which
there
are
links
on
the
CONFIRMATIONS
page,
from
the
maps
on
the
frequency
of
haplogroups
at
European
level
and
from
the
tables
regarding
the
genetic
structure
of
European
peoples,
it
results
that
there
are
genetic
similarities
between
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Serbs,
Croats,
Slovenes,
Bulgarians.
,
Montenegrins,
Macedonians,
Bosnians,
the
inhabitants
of
these
countries
being
descendants
of
Thracians
and
Dacians
(see
ACKNOWLEDGMENT page).
DNA tests performed on their own initiative
In
order
to
discover
their
relatives
and
to
find
out
their
origin,
some
Roman
Catholics
from
Moldavia
took
the
DNA
test
for
ethnicity.
Through
their
kindness,
we
obtained
valuable
information
about
the
origin
of
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldavia
and
we
can
present
conclusions
extracted
from
these
DNA
tests
for
ethnicity,
of
the
so-called
"csangos"
from
Moldavia,
with
ancestral
origins
in
Bacău,
Neamț,
Vrancea
and
Iași
counties
(
on
the
ACKNOWLEDGMENT page).
Presentation of the Roman Catholic community in Moldavia
and some of the activities carried out by the Association of Roman Catholics Dumitru Mărtinaș
The original work
Professor
Dumitru
Mărtinaș's
book,
completed
by
the
author
in
1963
and
published
in
1985,
reaffirmed
the
theory
on
the
Romanian
origin
of
Roman
Catholics
from
Moldavia
(see
the
page
BOOKS).
Reaction
The
Roman
Catholic
Association
"Dumitru
Mărtinaş"
reacts
to
the
lies
of
the
photo
exhibition
in
Italy,
"csango
-
Mostra
fotografica
di
Stefano
Marzoli"
(
see
here
>>>
).
Location
communities
Map
with
the
localities
from
Moldavia
-
Romania,
where
there
are
important
communities
of
Roman
Catholic
believers
(
see
here >>>
).
Bust unveiling
Unveiling
the
bust
of
Professor
Dumitru
Mărtinaș
and
organizing
on
this
occasion
the
national
symposium
-
Catholics
from
Moldavia.
History.
School.
Identity
(
see
here >>>
).
The purpose of our actions
Through
the
activity
of
the
Roman
Catholic
Association
Dumitru
Mărtinaș,
we
want
to
express
our
opinion,
to
make
ourselves
known,
to
make
available
to
all
interested
information
about
our
origin,
to
tell
everyone
who
we
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldova
is,
what
is
our
history,
we
offer
information
about
popular
culture,
folklore,
customs,
our
traditions,
for
the
triumph
of
truth,
in
respect
for
all
people,
regardless of the level of culture and belonging to a social or cultural group.
Young Roman Catholics
welcoming
guests
with
bread
and
salt,
according
to
the
Romanian
traditional
custom.
The
folk
dance
of
the
Roman
Catholics
from
Moldavia
and
their
folk
costumes
fit
perfectly
in
the
traditional
Romanian
pattern
(see
details on the page CULTURE).
2019 Symposium
Theoretical
High
School
"Henri
Coandă"
Bacău
organized
on
May
30,
2019,
the
County
Symposium
"Catholics
in
Moldavia
-
History,
identity,
origins" (
see here >>>
).
Commemoration
On
August
10,
2017,
on
Coşna
Hill,
at
elevation
789,
in
Pîrgăreşti
commune,
Bacău
county,
a
commemorative
event
was
organized
on
the
100th
anniversary
of
the
fighting
on
Coşna
Hill (
see here >>>
).
National Anthem
Day
Saturday,
July
29,
2017,
was
marked
in
Bacău,
in
Tricolor
Square,
the
Day
of
the
National
Anthem
of
Romania
(
see
here
>>>
).
Reverential
The
book
"A
life
dedicated
to
an
opera.
In
memoriam
professoris
Dumitru
Mărtinaş",
coordinated
by
Dr.
Anton
Coşa,
was
published
by
"Sapientia"
Publishing
House
(see
pag.
BOOKS).
Miron Cristea's days
Between
July
17-20,
2016,
the
19th
edition
of
the
"Miron
Cristea
Days"
took
place
in
Topliţa
(Harghita
County),
a
cultural-
scientific
event
organized
by
the
"Miron
Cristea"
Cultural
Foundation
(
see
here
>>>
).
Summer University
Between
August
14-
20,
2016,
the
works
of
the
14th
edition
of
the
Summer
University
of
Izvoru
Mureşului
took
place (
see here >>>
).
National Day of
Romania
On
Friday,
December
1,
2017,
an
official
ceremony
was
organized
on
the
occasion
of
the
celebration
of
Romania's
National
Day
(
see here >>>
).
Symposium 2016
Between
September
20-21,
2016,
the
scientific
symposium
took
place:
Social
and
political
emancipation
in
modern
Romania
(
see here >>>
).
Summer University
Between
August
10-
16,
2015,
the
works
of
the
13th
edition
of
the
Summer
University
of
Izvoru
Mureşului
took
place (
see here >>>
).
Vasile Pârvan
Symposium
Between
October
6-
7,
2016,
the
"Iulian
Antonescu"
Museum
Complex
in
Bacău,
the
"Vasile
Pârvan"
National
Symposium
was
organized
(
see
here
>>>
).
European Youth
Club
The
“European
Youth
Club”
project
was
organized
in
Bacău,
in
which
young
people
from
Bacău
County
participated
in
extracu-
ricular
educational
and
creative
courses
(
see
here >>>
).
Summer camp
In
August
2015,
the
summer
camp
was
organized
within
the
"Social
Club
of
Young
from
Băcău"
Project,
financially
supported
by
the
Bacău
County
Council (
see here >>>
).
C
u
l
t
u
r
a
l
-
s
c
i
e
n
t
i
f
i
c
events
Between
March
27-
28,
2015,
in
Sfântu
Gheorghe,
the
European
Studies
Center
"Covasna-
Harghita"
and
the
C
u
l
t
u
r
a
l
-
C
h
r
i
s
t
i
a
n
League
"Andrei
Şaguna"
organized
a
series
of
c
u
l
t
u
r
a
l
-
s
c
i
e
n
t
i
f
i
c
events (
see here >>>
).
Photography
exhibition
Within
the
project
"European
Youth
Club"
was
organized
the
photography
exhibition
"The
Roman
Catholic
village
of
Bacau
-
history
and
present"
(
see here >>>
).
Summer University
Between
August
11-
16,
2014,
the
works
of
the
12th
edition
of
the
Summer
University
from
Izvoru
Mureşului
took
place,
an
event
organized
by
the
Ministry
of
Culture
(
see
here >>>
).
Taking a stand
The
issue
of
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldova
in
the
volume
"Romanians
in
the
Szekler
Council
debates
of
1902.
Premises
and
reverberations"
(see
the
document
here >>>
).
Release of a book
In
2013,
the
work
Monograph
of
Somuşca
village
was
launched,
with
Prof.
Dr.
Anton
Coşa
as
author
(
see
details here
).
Release of a book
On
August
25,
2013,
in
the
village
of
Professor
Dumitru
Mărtinaș,
the
work
Butea
was launched. Monograph (
see details here
).
Editorial appearances
The
Roman-Catholic
Association
Dumitru
Mărtinaș,
organized
alone
or
together
with
partners
in
the cultural and economic field, numerous book launch activities, some of which are presented below.
Pleading for science and truth
The
initiative
to
create
an
association,
entitled
"Dumitru
Mărtinaş"
in
memory
of
a
teacher
who
dedicated
his
life
to
knowing
their
own
identity
and
that
of
all
those
who
are
part
of
the
Catholic
communities
in
Moldavia,
more
precisely
in
the
Roman
areas
,
Iaşi,
Bacău
and
Trotuş,
represent,
in
fact,
the
legitimate
desire
to
recognize
a
natural
right
in
today's
society:
the
right
to
grow
up,
the
right
to
live
in
peace,
to
follow
one's
own
culture
and
religion
and
to
contribute
to
the
formation
of
the
human
family, according to God's plan and will.
Every
person
and
every
community
is
called
to
fulfill
its
mission
in
the
face
of
history
and
cannot
give
up
this
contribution,
even
if
it
is
smaller
or
less
numerous.
Everyone's
role
is
in
proportion
to
the
dignity
and
choice
to
be
a
human
person
and
to
live
in
the
society
in
which
and
through
which
he
feels
fulfilled.
The
ways
and
means
by
which
people
and
communities
fulfill
their
purpose
are
in
accordance
with
the
realities
of
the
environment
in
which
they
live
and
according
to
the
inheritances
received.
Therefore,
religion,
culture,
language,
customs
and
their
evolution
over
time
are
the
basis
of
the
manifestations
of
each
person
and
each
community.
Knowing
these
elements
is,
in
fact,
not
only
a
condition
for
being
able
to
grow
and
contribute
to
the
general
good
of
society,
but
also
a
happy
means
of
self-realization
and
fulfillment of the call entrusted by the Creator.
Based
on
these
principles
and
considerations,
we
want
to
continue
the
spirit
of
research
that
professor
Mărtinaș
had,
to
show
the
courage
to
tell
the
internal
and
external
truth,
which
he
knows
and
lives,
to
promote
understanding,
harmony,
peace
and
brotherhood
between
people.
,
which
are
the
characteristics
of
a
true
Christian
and
this
time
a
Catholic,
that
is,
universal,
without
other
or
exclusive
interests, which would reject others, who have other beliefs and other forms of manifestation.
We
want
to
turn
to
the
forerunners,
to
the
past
and
supported
by
the
fundamental
principles
of
Christianity,
remaining
faithful
followers
of
the
One
who
came
to
convince
everyone
that
they
must
love
each
other,
not
to
quarrel
over
language,
social
conditions
or
different
cultures,
but
all
to
be
one,
thus
destroying
the
dividing
wall
and
establishing
peace
with
those
near
and
those
far
away
(cf.
Eph.
2:
22
22).
We
call
on
all
who
wish,
Catholics
and
non-Catholics,
who
speak
the
same
language
of
science
and
love,
to
offer
their
skills
and
knowledge
to
be
published
on
our
website
and
forum.
On
this
site
you
will
find
information
about
the
history,
culture
and
traditions
of
Roman
Catholics
in
the
historical
region
of
Moldavia
(Romania);
the
Romanians
of
Roman-Catholic
religion
called
“csangos”
(of
Hungarian
propaganda) and about the activity of the Roman-Catholic Association “Dumitru Mărtinaş”.
In
support
of
our
claims
about
the
origin
of
Moldavian
Roman
Catholics
and
their
belonging
to
the
Romanian
nation,
we
present
the
results
of
scientific
studies
and
DNA
tests
that
prove
our
claims
and
contradict theories of descent from the Hungarian population.
The
DNA
tests
prove
the
descent
of
Moldovan
Roman-Catholics
from
the
Dacians
and
the
genetic
relationship
of
all
Romanians,
with
all
the
peoples
of
Romania's
neighboring
countries,
including
the
Hungarians
(from
Hungary),
who
are
-
and
they
-
descendants
of
the Dacians and Thracians
(see DNA tests on the ACKNOWLEDGMENT page)
.
Roman-Catholic Association “Dumitru Mărtinaș”
(the so-called “csangos”)
C O N T A C T S
We can be contacted at the e-mail address, on the forum and on facebook.
20
years
of
activity
of
the
Roman
Catholic
Association Dumitru Mărtinaș
On
the
20th
anniversary
of
the
General
Assembly
of
the
Association
of
Roman
Catholics
Dumitru
Mărtinaș,
on
September
17,
2021,
in
Bacău,
a
cultural-scientific
event
was
organized
dedicated
to
the
homage
of
Professor
Dumitru
Mărtinaş
and
to
mark
20
years
since
its
establishment.
(
see
here >>
).
Scientific
communications
session
-
Izvoru
Mureșului,
2021.
On
the
20th
anniversary
of
the
General
Assembly
of
the
Association
of
Roman
Catholics
Dumitru
Mărtinaș,
on
September
17,
2021,
in
Bacău,
a
cultural-scientific
event
was
organized
dedicated
to
the
homage
of
Professor
Dumitru
Mărtinaş
and
to
mark
20
years
since
its
establishment.
(
see
here >>
).
Session
of
scientific
communications
On
October
16
and
17,
2021,
in
Coroieni,
Maramureș
County,
the
Scientific
Communications
Session
took
place
-
"Resistance
to
the
establishment
and
institutionalization
of
the
communist
regime
in
Romania
-
70
years
since
the
beginning
of
collectivization
in
Coroieni
commune."
On
this
occasion,
a
communication
on
the
anti-
communist
resistance
of
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldova
was
presented
(
see here >>
).
The
participation
of
the
Dumitru
Mărtinaș
Roman
Catholic
Association
at
the
symposium
with
the
theme
"Centenary
of
the coronation from Alba Iulia. 1922 - 2022"
On
October
1,
2022,
the
City
Hall
of
Coroieni
commune,
Maramureș
county,
organized
the
symposium
with
the
theme
"Centenary
of
the
Coronation
of
Alba
Iulia
1922
-
2022",
an
event
at
which
the
Roman
Catholic
Association
Dumitru
Mărtinaș
was
represented
by
the
president
of
the
association,
who
presented
the
speech
"Ferdinand
I
-
a
Catholic
king,
who
died
a
Catholic".
(
see
here
).
Participation
of
the
Dumitru
Mărtinaș
Roman
Catholic
Association
in
the
Andrei
Şaguna
Days,
XXXI
Edition
(June
24-July
23,
2023)
-
Sfântu
Gheorghe - Reci - Dobârlău
Between
June
24
and
July
23,
2023,
a
series
of
cultural-scientific
events
were
organized
within
the
"Andrei
Şaguna
Days"
project,
the
XXXI
edition.
The
program
included
evocations,
colloquiums,
symposium,
documentary
exhibitions,
launches and book presentations. (
see here
).
The
participation
of
the
Dumitru
Mărtinaș
Roman
Catholic
Association
at
The
national
conference
"The
solidarity
of
the
slopes.
Cultural,
historical
and
religious
interferences
on
both
sides
of
the Carpathians"
During
June
8-9,
2023,
the
"Ștefan
cel
Mare"
Military
Museum
in
Iaşi
organized
the
national
conference
on
the
theme
"The
solidarity
of
the
slopes.
Cultural,
historical
and
religious
interferences
on
one
side
and
the
other
of
the
Carpathians",
the
second
edition. (
see here
).